Lies about Polygamy – Part III

treringarMany people, even muslims, wonder why a god would allow something as painful and destructive as forced polygamy. They also question why a god would be discriminating and misogynist and allow one sort of people a right at the expense of another group.

This is the kind of bogus, lying falsehoods that muslim scholars will use to justify why muslim men should have rights at the expense of muslim women:

Men and women are different, physiologically and psychologically. Their roles and responsibilities are different. Men and women are equal in Islam, but not identical.

Surah Nisa’ Chapter 4 verses 22 to 24 gives the list of women with who you can not marry and it is further mentions in Surah Nisa’ Chapter 4 verse 24 “Also (prohibited are) women already married”

The following points enumerate the reasons why polyandry is prohibited in Islam:

1. If a man has more than one wife, the parents of the children born of such marriages can easily be identified. The father as well as the mother can easily be identified. In case of a woman marrying more than one husband, only the mother of the children born of such marriages will be identified and not the father. Islam gives tremendous importance to the identification of both parents, mother and father. Psychologists tell us that children who do not know their parents, especially their father undergo severe mental trauma and disturbances. Often they have an unhappy childhood. It is for this reason that the children of prostitutes do not have a healthy childhood. If a child born of such wedlock is admitted in school, and when the mother is asked the name of the father, she would have to give two or more names! I am aware that recent advances in science have made it possible for both the mother and father to be identified with the help of genetic testing. Thus this point which was applicable for the past may not be applicable for the present.

2. Man is more polygamous by nature as compared to a woman.

3. Biologically, it is easier for a man to perform his duties as a husband despite having several wives. A woman, in a similar position, having several husbands, will not find it possible to perform her duties as a wife. A woman undergoes several psychological and behavioral changes due to different phases of the menstrual cycle.

4. A woman who has more than one husband will have several sexual partners at the same time and has a high chance of acquiring venereal or sexually transmitted diseases which can also be transmitted back to her husband even if all of them have no extra-marital sex. This is not the case in a man having more than one wife, and none of them having extra-marital sex.

The above reasons are those that one can easily identify. There are probably many more reasons why Allah, in His Infinite Wisdom, has prohibited polyandry.

Dr. Zakir Naik

Ok, so let’s look at these blatant lies one at a time:

*Men and women are different, physiologically and psychologically. Their roles and responsibilities are different. Men and women are equal in Islam, but not identical.

This is a ridiculous statement based on falsified science. Please read Lies about Polygamy – Part II for scientific proof that this is pure B*S* Please also compare the “Men and women are equal in Islam, but not identical”-statement with the quote from Hitler in the same post. You will find proof here that islam shares not only ideology but also rhetoric with the nazis.

*If a man has more than one wife, the parents of the children born of such marriages can easily be identified. The father as well as the mother can easily be identified. In case of a woman marrying more than one husband, only the mother of the children born of such marriages will be identified and not the father. Islam gives tremendous importance to the identification of both parents, mother and father. Psychologists tell us that children who do not know their parents, especially their father undergo severe mental trauma and disturbances. Often they have an unhappy childhood. It is for this reason that the children of prostitutes do not have a healthy childhood. If a child born of such wedlock is admitted in school, and when the mother is asked the name of the father, she would have to give two or more names! I am aware that recent advances in science have made it possible for both the mother and father to be identified with the help of genetic testing. Thus this point which was applicable for the past may not be applicable for the present.Damn right it’s not applicable! So stop using it! 

*  Man is more polygamous by nature as compared to a woman.

This is one of the most selfish male lies. Men of course want to promote their right to sleep around, while believing that their own wives would never as much as look at another man because it’s not in their nature. OMG that anybody can be that stupid! Many women would love to have a whole harem of Johnny Depp look alikes around to sleep with, if we just never had to deal with their dirty socks and packed lunches! That aside, I’ll say it again. Science proves that this is a lie! : For 122 different characteristics, from empathy to sexuality to science inclination to extroversion, a statistical analysis of 13,301 individuals did not reveal any distinct differences between men and women

* Biologically, it is easier for a man to perform his duties as a husband despite having several wives. A woman, in a similar position, having several husbands, will not find it possible to perform her duties as a wife. A woman undergoes several psychological and behavioral changes due to different phases of the menstrual cycle.

Well, first of all recent science shows that men are cyclic too. Theirs is a 24 hour cycle which makes them even more unstable, hormonal and unpredictable than women. Science also proves that men’s innate aggressiveness make them more unstable in temperament and psyche than women. Financially, providing for two wives and families is impossible for many, especially in Western countries. For a woman to have two husbands is extremely beneficial to the family economy. So the financial argument speaks for polyandry, not for polygyny. As to physical need very few men manage to fulfill the sexual desires of more than one woman per night. Biologically, men are less able in this respect than women, and their deficiency increases with age. Women however have the physical and biological capability to have sex with as many men as she pleases every day. Hence, polyandry is physically and biologically possible and beneficial while polygyny is not.

* A woman who has more than one husband will have several sexual partners at the same time and has a high chance of acquiring venereal or sexually transmitted diseases which can also be transmitted back to her husband even if all of them have no extra-marital sex. This is not the case in a man having more than one wife, and none of them having extra-marital sex.

Huh?? This is basic lack of logic on a level that makes it downright laughable! This guy should not be married at all since his intellectual standard obviously shows him in possession of genes that should not be allowed to be passed on. There is simply no way to understand what he’s getting at, so I’ll just let this argument be proof of it’s own idiocy.

Conclusion: All these arguments claiming that polygyny is beneficial are biased and or false. Instead, proof shows that polyandry is biologically, socially and economically beneficial.

Also:

It might be interesting to know that this islamic scientist and acclaimed representative of islam has stated that all muslims should be terrorists, that evolution is “only a hypothesis, and an unproven conjecture at best”, that he supports Bin Ladin, and that homosexuality and reverting from islam should be punishable by death.

5 thoughts on “Lies about Polygamy – Part III

  1. A lot of the reasons our scholars give to justify polygamy are scientifically inaccurate. I agree.

    Though as a Muslim I do not necessarily agree with all that you have said about Islam [Islam doe NOT force polygamy on women, they can make no-polygamy conditions in their marriage contracts] but you are right. Many Muslims themselves know that the reasons our scholars give to justify polygamy are complete bogus.

    I wonder what you think of this article, written by a Muslim lady who accepts polygamy but also says that she sees no logical reason for it. Its an interesting article.

    http://muslimmatters.org/2011/07/04/polygamy-rational-or-irrational/

    I myself see it in this light: the Qu’ran did not come to allow men to marry multiple wives at a time when the norm was one wife. It came to restrict the number men could marry to four since there was no limit. Men at the time had 8, 10 or 12 wives. It was already a cultural norm.

  2. Hello Daagh, nice to see you! 🙂

    Well, some moderate muslims and muslim countries allow for “no-polygamy”-stipulations in the marriage contract. (These do however not mean that the husband can not take a second wife, they just mean that the first wife has a right to divorce if he does) Many poor women are forced to marry without this stipulation because the man will refuse to sign and she is put under pressure to marry any way, by her family, by financial circumstances, by love…Also, I can tell you, if your husband marries a #2, it may be torture to leave even if you do have that option!
    Many muslims, salafis e.g., don’t believe it’s permissable to have such a clause in the marriage contract. They say that trying to make haram something which allah has made halal is forbidden and may land the woman in hell.

    As to the claim that the quran came to restrict the number of wives allowed, I believe science, democracy and human rights came to restrict the quran (and all other religious texts). I have also never understood why 90 % of all islamic texts propagating polygamy use polygamy in the bible as an excuse. I used to believe in santa, but I stopped when I became educated, rational and able to see thing from a perspective other than my own. Same goes for christianity in this matter. So why coming back to the “They used to believe in santa too!”-argument? Incredibly foolish… Also, when muslims state the bible doesn’t forbid polygamy that is a lie, it does in the NT.
    Well, sorry, that was a bit off topic wasn’t it? 🙂
    Anyway, about the article. I do agree with some of it. However, the faith argument is a gooey one.
    Did you ever read “Lord of the Flies”? Believing in a vengeful god, people wanting to please their father – or slaveowner depending which faith you belong to – is the most powerful manipulative force in history. The argument that is made in the article, is the same argument that leads to destruction in “Lord of the Flies”. We can never ever allow religion to make us transgress against people. Religions who accept human rights have understood this and alter their practices, which is doable if you allow critical debate and can accept that religious texts are historical documents and can be obsolete. In islam there’s the problem that criticism is not allowed, except in minor details like will god accept my prayer even if I have broken leg with a cast and can’t wash properly, that kind of thing. No muslim is allowed to stand up in Saudi Arabia and say “Hey, what if Muhammad, being a human being, was wrong about some things. What if he got some of the messages wrong, or what if he came up with some of the messages himself and just pretended they came from god? Or what if the guy was just a warrior who lied and cheated about messages from god to rule over people?” That is a major problem of islam!
    Just like we shouldn’t tell children to be good to please santa we shouldn’t tell people to submit to discrimination of any kind to please god.

    Thank you for posting, it’s always interesting to discuss things with you! 🙂

  3. actually, i just want to add to this healthy argument is that, (considering my knowledge is not wrong) 1) the number of females in the world is greater than the number of males,
    2) in general the life span of a female is longer than that of a male
    3) in war countries there is a greater number of female widows than male ones
    to take as an example, and if this accurate then in the USA and if we consider the ratio of female to males if every man got married to one woman, there would still be more than thirty million more females in USA who would not be able to get husbands (considering that America has twenty five million gays). This means you will have a social crises, in a since that humans will eventually tend to have sex in their life time, so these “extra” 30 million women will eventually have sex with a married man, or maybe turn to become homosexual, but if we go with the argument that homosexuality is by “nature” then, these 30 million women cant be all homosexual by nature and most probably most of them if not all will be heterosexual by nature, thus this all leads to that these “30” million women will eventually have sex with a married man. My point is there will be women who will have sex with a married man, now you can vilify these women and call them criminals and take away their right to have a family and a healthy sexual life, or you can allow them to have a chance and have the full rights of a wife, a second or a third wife doesnt mean she has less rights than the first one, if you want to argue in the islamic context, islam made this a condition, that all the wifes have to have equal rights, and if the man fears that he cants give them that right then he is forbidden to have more than one wife.

  4. Hello, and welcome. You must excuse me but I find it hilarious that you post exactly the islamist lies about polygyny that science has proven to be outrageous falsehoods, proof of which I have posted here: https://polygamy911.wordpress.com/2013/05/15/the-islamist-lies-about-polygamy-part-i/ QED. 🙂 If you want to discuss this, please read that post before you make any more bogus claims. And really -calling yourself a student of knowledge completes the joke! Ha ha 😀

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